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Poster: gdave Date: Mar 28, 2007 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Fillmore East 71 question

Does anyone know where I can find the specific dates for the songs on the "Ladies and Gentlemen..." compilation?

I know that Dark Star through NFA>GDTRFB>NFA with TC is from 4-28 (which I am enjoying right now), and I know the Alligator though Cold Rain and the double encore on Disc 4 is from 4-29. Beyond that, not much.

I could probably figure out some of the others by process of elimination, but I figured someone out there either has this or knows where to find out.

Thanks.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 29, 2007 5:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

This is a great source for dates of individual tracks on all the GD live albums:

http://www3.clearlight.com/~acsa/intro.htm

Click on "discographies" on the left, and then on "dates of live albums".

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Poster: Rne Date: Mar 29, 2007 4:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies_and_Gentlemen_..._The_Grateful_Dead

I donĀ“t know if the article is right, anyway.

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Poster: dr. flashback Date: Mar 28, 2007 6:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

hey gdave,
Also, the Wharf Rat on the L&G Fillmore 71 is the long lost Wharf Rat from 4/28. For years, everyone had 4/28 on tapes and later CD's that went from the Other One directly into Sugar Mag. The Other One is of course the one featured on "Skull Fuck" and is why it's not re-issued on the L&G box set.
So what you can do is copy the WAV Wharf Rat onto your computer, get out your copy of 4/28/71 and splice it in after the Other One, as it was played, and you'll have the full show.
Both of these nights, 4/28 and 4/29 make my top ten for 1971 BTW. They are THAT good. If you can appeciate the gutsiness, the rough edges and the raw untamed boogie animal that the Dead were in 1971, then these shows are a must have.
The rest of the year they equaled, but never topped these 2 nights, esp. if you include the Pigpen songs, which is some of the best work he ever did live with the band. Hard to Handle and Alligator are the stuff of legend here.
As for the other nights -

4/25 - only a part circulates as SBD. I've never known anyone that traded or had it. The box set gives you quite a few songs from 4/25, which is a good thing. However, it's probably the weakest night of the run.

4/26 - Set Two features Duane Allman on some tunes, Sugar Mag, Hurts Me Too. Although he's pretty low in the mix. A good show overall. Short but nice Dark Star in Set One!
The Wharf Rat here is the one they used on "Live Dead 71" or Skull Fuck, after adding Merl Saunders on organ overdub. They also used Mama Tried and Big Boss Man from this show on that live album.

4/27 - With the Beach Boys, believe it or not, in Set Two. Some of the BB songs are good, some NOT. However, Set One is great, as is the Lovelight ender. Worth collecting just to hear the Grateful Dead play "Okie From Muskogee". I imagine that quite a few numbers were lit in the Fillmore when they played this one!!!

cheers,
Dr. Flashback :-)

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Poster: gdave Date: Mar 28, 2007 10:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

Thanks for the info dr. Much appreciated.

A high-gen copy of 4-29 was one of my first tapes, and I still think that the jam stands up to just about anything I've ever heard them do. The Pigpen stuff on L&G is fantastic. I guess 4-28 is the last Dark Star>St. Stephen too.

I have been listening to a lot of early 71 lately, and these are also in my top 10 (as are 2-19, 7-2 (a grok from a month back or so), 3-18 and 2-18)

Thanks for the reminder about 3-28-73 today too. I heard the Dark Star for the first time a couple weeks ago and was completely blown away. It is sometimes hard for me to believe that after listening to this band for 20 years, they still have the power to amaze me on a regular basis.

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Poster: sparky999255 Date: Mar 27, 2007 5:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

gdave that run of shows is available here as well:

[outdated gdlive]



This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-03-28 00:14:46

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Poster: gdave Date: Mar 28, 2007 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

Thanks again. I am definitely going to grab 4-26 and 4-27. I know I have heard at least parts of them, but it has been long time. Four discs (6 with Skull Fuck I guess)wasn't a big enough release from this stand.

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Poster: sparky999255 Date: Mar 28, 2007 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

check here:

http://www.thebestofwebsite.com/Bands/Grateful_Dead/Reviews/Ladies_and_Gentlemen.htm

scroll down

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Poster: gdave Date: Mar 28, 2007 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Fillmore East 71 question

Thanks

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